I am using the demo version and am having problems with medium sized renders. The render stops about half way through. This happens intermittently and never if the render is small. These renders are not all that big, about 2000 by 1200 pixels. Please let me know how to fix this or if I should expect this problem from the software.
Thanks, John
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Yes, I set it to the same pixel dimension as the screen for both. It is a little hard to see but the two images are lined up at the edges. I suppose that it may work if you don't use the pan and zoom to recompose the scene in sketchup, but that is what I usually do to get the scene the way I want it.
Thanks,
John
Al Hart said:
IN you example, did you set the Render Image Size to "SketchUp". (It is not to SketchUp in the image below)
If you are rendering to a different size, then they will not be precisely the same.
Here, using photoshop, I have overlayed the line image export from sketchup on top of the render. The verticals remain but the scale and position are not the same. One of the great features of skecthup is that all the image exports from a scene will have the exact composition. What you see is what you get
Al Hart said:
It would be nice if it could keep the two point perspectives from sketchup.
Two point perspective should be processed properly.
If they are not, send us another small model to test it.
Here is a quick sample of rendering a 2 pt perspective from SketchUp
Thanks Al and everyone else. This is bit much to digest but I will try some things when I have a chance.
I am making clay renders with sky, sun and a few lights. I have been having the problems with various models so I don't think this is a file issue.
I have the passes set to 40 and the time to 0.
I have tried it with auto save at 20 passes just so I would have something if it fails.
I am having various and intermittent problems.
The render fail to complete and a message comes up warning that the render has stopped.
Some times it just stops after the first save at 20 passes, with no message.
Some times it completes the render but the processor stays pegged to 100% for 10 minutes after. Then I am locked out of everything except rendering window.
I have been trying out most of the sketchup renderers and this one is the most promising but if I can't rely on the renders I will be wasting too much time to make it practical.
There are few other concerns I have. There is no separate ambient occlusion pass, I like this feature on other renderers. It would be nice if it could keep the two point perspectives from sketchup.
Thanks again for your help!
Al Hart said:
Good thought Boothy.
I forgot to ask if it stopped with a message, or core dumped.
Somehow the way things have been going this week, I assumed it either froze or produced a core dump.
Did not see any offence - SU8 is much of amuchness really - visible backplains are useful (provides hidden detail of rear vectors rather than using full blown xray) - visually much easier when rear editing complex models - `remote` push pull I find annoying - still no 64 bit version sadly - The solid tools (basically various forms of Boalean modification)are good and provide a faster\more refined method of modifying geometry rather than model interpenetration\deletion I keep forgeting them and modding the old method - A lot of mods are relative to LAYOUT which I never use has its slow and I prefer other means of presentation and does not relate to NXT.Other that being compatible with other SKP files I would not rush out and buy if not required.I have not check out any change to import filters etc - I have also had a lot 2D design work at moment and have only produced 2-3 commercial SU\ rendered visuals over last 2 months.
Completely agree with you about default setting of 0. I hope I haven't offended you :-0 I don't think you misread the post as I said my first and only thought (you beat me to posting it) was this setting (which has happened in the past) as I'm sure previously when you set it to say 10 seconds that's all it did, and stopped mid render.:-)
I have always set mine to 0 or now the new setting "no limit render until stopped", never the time setting to avoid this potentially issue- as you say.
When I was trying it out the timing setting I thought I would re read the posts (as completely board with 2d tender packages at the moment, but it pays the bills- rendering is such good distraction therapy), to glean any additional info and just felt that there was a subtle difference which I wanted to high light, to see if John could confirm this or provide any further info.
I tried 2000x1200 no problem - Beta IJ16, tried larger (7000 up) no problem, and very clean renders.
Cheers Richcat
Ps. Anyway Friday beer night coming soon - I think Al & Rich need one at the moment - they deserve it, and I definitely need one.
PPS Boothy how are you getting on with GSU8, I haven't updated yet, which is unusual for me as as soon as its out "I must have It"
I have always thought that 0 would probably better as default in render timing - this may not be the problem but would eliminate a potential issue - John did say he was using the demo version which may suggest he his new to our little universe - apologies again John if your a mega cad diva and I have completely misread the post.
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Yes, I set it to the same pixel dimension as the screen for both. It is a little hard to see but the two images are lined up at the edges. I suppose that it may work if you don't use the pan and zoom to recompose the scene in sketchup, but that is what I usually do to get the scene the way I want it.
Thanks,
John
Al Hart said:
(It is not to SketchUp in the image below)
If you are rendering to a different size, then they will not be precisely the same.
Here, using photoshop, I have overlayed the line image export from sketchup on top of the render. The verticals remain but the scale and position are not the same. One of the great features of skecthup is that all the image exports from a scene will have the exact composition. What you see is what you get
Al Hart said:
Another quickie - the animation facilty does not work with 2 point perspective
Boothy
Two point perspective should be processed properly.
If they are not, send us another small model to test it.
Here is a quick sample of rendering a 2 pt perspective from SketchUp
I am making clay renders with sky, sun and a few lights. I have been having the problems with various models so I don't think this is a file issue.
I have the passes set to 40 and the time to 0.
I have tried it with auto save at 20 passes just so I would have something if it fails.
I am having various and intermittent problems.
The render fail to complete and a message comes up warning that the render has stopped.
Some times it just stops after the first save at 20 passes, with no message.
Some times it completes the render but the processor stays pegged to 100% for 10 minutes after. Then I am locked out of everything except rendering window.
I have been trying out most of the sketchup renderers and this one is the most promising but if I can't rely on the renders I will be wasting too much time to make it practical.
There are few other concerns I have. There is no separate ambient occlusion pass, I like this feature on other renderers. It would be nice if it could keep the two point perspectives from sketchup.
Thanks again for your help!
Al Hart said:
Did not see any offence - SU8 is much of amuchness really - visible backplains are useful (provides hidden detail of rear vectors rather than using full blown xray) - visually much easier when rear editing complex models - `remote` push pull I find annoying - still no 64 bit version sadly - The solid tools (basically various forms of Boalean modification)are good and provide a faster\more refined method of modifying geometry rather than model interpenetration\deletion I keep forgeting them and modding the old method - A lot of mods are relative to LAYOUT which I never use has its slow and I prefer other means of presentation and does not relate to NXT.Other that being compatible with other SKP files I would not rush out and buy if not required.I have not check out any change to import filters etc - I have also had a lot 2D design work at moment and have only produced 2-3 commercial SU\ rendered visuals over last 2 months.
Have one for me !
Boothy
Completely agree with you about default setting of 0. I hope I haven't offended you :-0 I don't think you misread the post as I said my first and only thought (you beat me to posting it) was this setting (which has happened in the past) as I'm sure previously when you set it to say 10 seconds that's all it did, and stopped mid render.:-)
I have always set mine to 0 or now the new setting "no limit render until stopped", never the time setting to avoid this potentially issue- as you say.
When I was trying it out the timing setting I thought I would re read the posts (as completely board with 2d tender packages at the moment, but it pays the bills- rendering is such good distraction therapy), to glean any additional info and just felt that there was a subtle difference which I wanted to high light, to see if John could confirm this or provide any further info.
I tried 2000x1200 no problem - Beta IJ16, tried larger (7000 up) no problem, and very clean renders.
Cheers Richcat
Ps. Anyway Friday beer night coming soon - I think Al & Rich need one at the moment - they deserve it, and I definitely need one.
PPS Boothy how are you getting on with GSU8, I haven't updated yet, which is unusual for me as as soon as its out "I must have It"
Boothy
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